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How do your auctions work?
First we are a real auction house, licensed in Tennessee and other states, and qualified to auction any item. However, we specialize only in knives. We are the only auctioneers in the world that concentrate on knives, which makes us specialists in our field. .  We two types of auctions--catalog auctions and live auctions  We will elaborate more below.

1. Catalog Auction
      We are a traditional auction house, we are not ebay. Bidders receive the catalog, either by purchase or by request. Some consignors request lavish color catalogs to be done on their collection, or we incorporate their knives into our regularly scheduled auctions in a printed format that ranges from glossy color to large tabloids. We adjust the price of the catalogs by the cost of producing them.  We do offer the catalogs free to regular buyers who bid a certain amount, and we offer a subscription for the catalogs of every auction we produce for $19.95 for four issues.
     In the catalogs will list the knives we have for sale, they are accurately described by knowledgeable knife authorities. We also have an online catalog which shows the same knives in color, with the same descriptions as in the catalog.
    
       Bidders are given a deadline for the auction, and at midnight plus five minutes without a raised bid the auction is declared over and the winning bidders are contacted for payment and shipping notification.  
      This is a major difference between our auction and online-auctions.  We stop when everyone quits bidding. Time does not run out with someone there still willing to bid!

2. Live Auctions
     Our live auctions are exciting, and like all live auctions feature professional auctioneers in front of a live crowd and you see the bids and who is bidding, and once that time is pronounced "SOLD" by the auctioneer your opportunity to own that knife has passed. This "buy it now or lose it" pressure makes live auctions one of the most exciting ways to purchase knives, and you have to be on your toes to find the sleepers.
     We usually hold our live auctions in conjunction with major knife shows. 
      The knives are projected onto a large screen in color in the front of the room to provide accuracy and to allow bidders to see exactly what they are bidding on in a clear manner.
    

What if I have knives I wish to consign?
      We are constantly looking for knives of all kinds for our upcoming auctions. If it has a sharpened edge on it we can sell it, usually at market price or sometimes at record setting prices. Our $11,000 bid for a Moran non-damascus bowie,  and $11,000 for an ivory Moran folder are  world records at the moment.   We hold the world record for a factory-made knife, a Case Tested 6488 Green bone congress that sold for $14,300 in December of 2005. At the same time we have sold knives as low as $5.00.  We love to auction ALL types of knives.
      We will handle all types of knives: antique, bowie, pocketknives, commemoratives, handmade, custom, you name it.
       If you have knives you would like to consign here's how to go about it.  Simplest way is just to send them with a letter enclosed telling us to auction them for you. Other than some paperwork that's all you have to do except wait on the check.
       Of course you can contact us and we can explain more face to face, but usually once we know knives are to be consigned we will request that you inventory your knives, either by a list or simply laying on a photocopier as a single or in groups with the master blade open.
       You can download our contract. Make two copies, sign both and send both copies to us with your knives.  We will sign and return one copy to you prior to the auction.  YOU CAN FIND The contract by CLICKING HERE.
      We prefer shipment by USPS Registered Mail. That way it isn't lost, and it will not be left on our porch in the rain if we're not here. Upon receipt of your knives we will inspect them, and you let us do the rest.  Payment is around 60  days following the auction in most instances, quicker for live auctions.

How to list knives
      When you make your inventory list of knives
if helps a great deal if you do the following
1. Place a sticker on the BACK side of the knife corresponding to the number on your inventory sheet.
2. Measure the knife and note it on the inventory sheet  (fixed blades require overall length and blade length.  folders only measure the closed length.
3. How to package the knives.  Please do NOT wrap in a tissue and then wrap it fifteen times with package wrapping tape--  Instead take something like a paper towel, start on a corner and roll the knife toward the center.  Near the center fold the edges in, and continue to roll up.  (DO NOT TAPE).  When you have several knives wrapped in this way place them inside a ziplock bag, and then wrap the entire package in bubble wrap and box and ship. 

Your help in the above saves us hours in the preparation of an auction an allows us to spend more time on better photography.  

What is your percentage?
     We prefer to quote percentages on a case by case basis, and that rate can vary depending upon the types of knives you have, their sales potential, the number of knives you have, whether you want to publish a catalog exclusively on your collection or incorporate it with our standard catalog, etc.  The percentage will commonly be 15%, sometimes slightly higher.

Are there knives you will not sell?
       Due to federal regulations we cannot sell switchblades, gravity knives, "automatics", knives with bear jaw handles, and similar knives. We wish we could but we are not anxious to break federal laws that have been on the books since 1957.

Who picks the minimums or reserves?
      The best type of auction is an absolute auction with no minimum and no reserve, This is the best way to sell large collections or estates.  In mail auctions we prefer to set a small minimum, usually at a very low price to encourage bidding.  High minimums and reserves inhibit bidding.   However some consignors have special knives for which they want some protection, so on some knives in selected auctions we do allow a reserve to be placed.  There is usually a buy-back charge charged to the consignor if he executes the reserve.  This percentage will vary depending upon the knife.  Keep in mind that all live auctions usually start at zero.  On any of our auctions that state "absolute auction after the minimum bid is met" there is no reserve on any item.   If we feel a reserve is at market price, we might suggest to the consignor that we sell those consigned knives through our consignment department, a retail sales division that is not an auction. 

What is the difference between consigning a knife to you versus my listing it on an online auction?
     The single most important difference between J. Bruce Voyles, Auctioneers and most online auctions is our 35 years in the knife business. But that's not all. We police our auctions. Fakes are returned to the consignors. All knives we sell are available for inspection prior to completion of the deal.
     Our live auctions inspection is open to anyone, and we encourage all bidders to point out any knives that may have been tampered with. We police them ourselves, and have been known to withdraw a knife from the table in the middle of an auction if it is found to be less than 100% original.
     In our catalog auctions winning bidders have three days to examine their bids and return them if the item is found to be less than described. Inherent in that is the knowledge that members of our staff have inspected the knives prior to the auction to insure there are no fraudulent knives in the auction. We also require our consignors to stand behind their knives. The only exception to a lifetime authenticity guarantee by the consignor is in the event of an estate consignment, since it would be impossible for a deceased collector to guarantee the authenticity of his knives.  (We do police those as well though.)
     Unlike online auctions, with J. Bruce Voyles, Auctioneers your bid will not be sold out for a dollar on a hundred dollar bid. Raised bids are approximately 10% increase over the previous bid.

 


ONLINE AUCTIONS

Our own personal research into online auctions.  Buyer beware.
     We've investigated on-line auctions, and I've experimented with buying and
selling on on-line auctions myself. Despite the current hoopla and excitement
of on-line auctions I am reluctant to start an auction similar ourselves to e-bay or
amazon because of the obvious inability there to keep fake knives out.
     Even on some good knives the descriptions are sometimes outlandish if not outright
lies. In every group of knives I've experimented with myself, I've had no-pays,
in part because the bidders are basically anonymous to the seller-- a
nickname is easy to change, an email address is easily cancelled. Posting negative feedback is
useless to a guy who vanishes.
     In knives I have bid on that I actually wanted, I've been outbid at times by $2.00 on hundreds
of dollar bids, simply because I couldn't get my computer to place the bid quick enough.
     Until the online auction business figures out some way to overcome those
obstacles it is still not the area to seriously sell knives in my opinion.  We will continue to
experiment at times with knives by buying and selling a small amount on online auctions just
so we can know when and if those problems are corrected.  At that time we will seriously
consider an online knife auction of our own.
     Knives should be sold at auctions to the highest bidder, that's the person that wants it the most,
that's the person that deserves to own it. It shouldn't go to the person who is the most clever with $11.01 bids
instead of $10.00 bids, or the person who utilizes two computers to make the last minute deadline.
     The danger of fraud in inherent in an online auction.  Two people can easily run a bid up
on an unsuspecting collector.  To a licensed auctioneer like J. Bruce Voyles, Auctioneers that
is illegal under state laws.

  


RETURNS

What is your return policy on catalog auction knives?
    
We guarantee the knives we sell to be as described.   If not the bidder has three days in which to return the knives.
     We do not accept counterfeit knives and we screen knives in our auctions to the best of our abilities.  However as auctioneers we are agents for the consignors, and the final guarantee of the authenticity of a knife is backed up by the consignor.  In any knife with which there is a question we will co-operate fully with the bidder and the consignor to reconcile any dispute. We do expect our consignors to stand behind the authenticity of
their consignments.

 


TRAVELING WITH KNIVES

You travel a lot with knives, any thoughts about how best to fly with them safely?

I've done this a lot, with up to six figures in the value of knives. To date I've been lucky enough not to lose any. Some of the two most notable instances of lost knives was Jim Nolen while en route to the Guild show many years ago. He attributed his loss to having his knives in a padlocked gun case (which of course made it look like a gun).

Joe Drouin lost a suitcase full of his knives returning from I think it was the Blade show a few years ago, and recovered some eventually. In that instance the airlines had shipped his bag ahead on an earlier flight and a thief saw the bag sitting there and simply walked out carrying it.

Seems to me like the most dangerous thing you can do is to carry knives in something that would make it appear to the casual observer that there is something inside the bag worth stealing. To me that eliminates gun cases, halliburton suitcases, tool boxes, etc.

Those of us who fly all the time with knives usually conform to the theory that we use the ugliest, most beat up, travel-worn standard looking suitcase we own. 

I have a large Metal samsonite with it's own rollers and pull out handle that is dented, scratched, and taped over that works well and will hold a lot of stuff, including five of those wood S&D glass cases so I can lock the knives and wander around a show. It is common so if you use a popular bag be certain you mark it distinctively with colored ribbon tied to the handle, spray painted graffiti on the side or something.  Once at the Chattanooga airport I stopped someone from rolling my suitcase out because he had one identical to mine and I didn't have it marked. That's when I started marking mine.

I've traveled to shows with $20,000 Bowie knives inside a simple suitcase and a zip up case. To date I've never had any losses, thank God.

Another thing I do is I always try to go on a direct flight so my bags will not be taken off the plane and transferred. I will pay a little more to get a direct flight.

My one close call is when I forgot my own rules. I usually carry knives to shows in aluminum pilot cases, since the knives are protected, easy to move around, pack well in a suitcase, etc. They are great protection for knives, but the look too much like a camera case to fly with any feeling of security.. I was in a rush so rather than repack in my travel suitcases I took my two pilot cases of knives and checked them to the Ontario Airport for the Great Western Show.

I could not get a direct flight, but I did get one in which I stayed on the same plane. When I got to Ontario the bags at that time were simply set out without any security, and people were grabbing bags and taking 10 or 20 steps to the parking lot and driving off. My bags weren't there.

I knew they had to be gone because I had also committed the unforgivable act of planning on getting an inland marine policy on the knives for traveling, I'd put it off, and I had been filling out the necessary forms on the plane flight to Ontario.

The bags finally came through intact the next afternoon, so I got the knives on Saturday afternoon for a show, making it a total wasted trip. My loss at that time would have been a couple of years salary if the knives had not come through.

So the final part of my advice is get a good inland marine policy, photocopy the knives before you leave for the show so you will have a record, and hope they lose them. You'll enjoy the flight a lot more knowing the knives are insured.

The are some less expensive polices through some of the collector organizations. The one I use is Collectors Insurance.

 


SWITCHBLADES

Why are there no switchblades and automatics in your auctions?

On the subject of switchblades, what I know about them I gleaned from three different attorneys: Steve Halbrook, an attorney for the NRA and the man who got the Oregon switchblade law overturned in Oregon vs. Delgado. He was the attorney in that case. Joe Mangariciana, a knife collector of many years, the former attorney for the Knifemakers Guild; and Bill Claussen of Northwest Traders.

I know of no other attorneys who would be better versed in the switchblade laws, or have a vested interest in determining the legality or illegality of them.

In personal conversations with me they each have said at different times that I should STAY AWAY FROM THEM. There are no collector exemptions to my knowledge except in Oregon and Texas, or knives with blades under 3" in California.

The federal crime is violated with the INTRODUCTION INTO INTERSTATE COMMERCE. That can be carrying them across a state, possessing a switchblade that HAS BEEN CARRIED ACROSS A STATE LINE after the law went into effect in 1957, or has been smuggled in through customs after 1957. Possibly if switchblades are mailed via USPO it could possibly apply.  If some of the rulings in gun cases are any example, you could also be held on conspiracy to violate the switchblade act by telling someone at a show who the dealer is who is selling switchblades from under (or on top of ) his table.

Bill Claussen lives in Oregon, and at the Oregon show last year he had some switchblades he was selling, but if he sold one to you you had to sign a statement that you were either a. An Oregon resident, b. Would sell the knife before you left the state, or c. you would store the knife in the state when you left.

My question is if the most knowledgeable attorneys on the subject in the country as a group say stay away from them unless we live in Oregon, why are so many people taking the risk?

One answer I heard is "They sell well". No kidding. Everything illegal sells well if you're willing to take the risk. cocaine, grass, machine guns, etc. Just because we like switchblades, because we collect them, because they are selling really hot, or because they are handmade DOES NOT MAKE THEM LEGAL for the individual consumer.

Yea, as a knife collector I know knives are different, but not in the eyes of some ambitious assistant district attorney who is wanting to run for political office next year. If the authorities do decide to start enforcing the laws, who wants to be the test case?

I am amazed at the number of people openly buying and selling switchblades on the internet, in newsgroups, in classified ads, etc. I personally don't have the nerve. I predict someone in the knife business is sowing seeds in the wind by selling switchblades--which means they will eventually reap the whirlwind.

I wish everyone that does take the risk  good luck and hope that the authorities continue to look the other way.  I'm not personally willing to take that risk.

 


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